I mainly focused on the first half of the passage. Messy post ahead…
I’m trying to tease out the distinction between Walden Pond and the
stream of Time in this passage. Thoreau tells us in later chapters that the
bottom of Walden Pond is impossible to see and perhaps know (though he is able
to measure it by dropping a line and weight, a technique called “sounding”). Like
in this passage, however, he discusses being able to see the sky in the pond,
though not in the same way as with the stream. Here, in Time’s stream, Thoreau sees
the sky—not through the reflection provided by the water’s surface (as with
Walden)—but via the “sandy bottom” which is “pebbly with stars”—the remainder
that is eternity. (I like the association of the phrase “eternity remains” and
mathematical remainders as Thoreau writes a couple of sentences later, “I
cannot count one.”)
In this passage, I think it’s interesting that time and eternity
compose the same habitat (if we want to call it that), but time and eternity
aren’t the same component of that
habitat. In trying to understand the relationship, I’ve been thinking about the
idea of the movement of constellations (though I’m not sure how much about the
life of stars was known at this point in the 19th-century). I was
thinking about how the “fish in the sky” could be referring to both the visual
of literal fish swimming above the pebbly bottom of the stream (eternity), but
also the constellation of Pisces, also made up of pebbles (stars).
Here are some analogies that I’m thinking about:
Earth is to the constellations as
the bottom of the stream is
to the stream itself (the water) as
eternity is to time.
This analogy "set" is interesting to me because it draws a parallel between
earth and the bottom of the stream (which makes sense in their shared
groundedness) but also between earth and eternity (which aren’t necessarily the
same—earth changes, but does eternity?)
Thoreau also appears to draw a parallel between constellations and the
stream (this relationship makes another complicated analogy—constellations are
forever moving—like a stream—but they also return to the same place, and I’m
not sure that we could argue that the water in a stream does). I also like the
idea that we cannot describe the difference between 1) the distance between ourselves
and Star A and 2) the distance between ourselves and Star B with the naked eye—in this way, time, history (the age of stars),
and distance are all collapsed, similar to the way the intellect and sensory
organs are in the second half of the passage.
Finally, I feel like there is an association between the words “I,” “mine,”
and “stars.” “I begin to mine” seems like
a clever play between the first person singular nominative and first person
singular possessive—interesting that “me” drops out here—while carrying the
other meaning of “mine”—extraction, or divining—as one extracts minerals, like
starry jewels.
By divining—by “mine”-ing—Thoreau knows he knows nothing, but this is not
necessarily how he "knows" everything (eternity), as described at the beginning
of the passage. He *sees* eternity at the bottom of the pond—but does he mine
(divine) it? Is seeing the same thing as knowing? This might relate back to the idea about Star A and Star B that I was thinking about earlier.
(Also could perhaps create a new type of relationship between the bottom of Walden and the bottom of the stream of Time--
"knowing" versus "seeing" /
actual observation and metaphor (time as stream) (?)
(though I don't think these parallels are necessarily equivalent)).
(Also could perhaps create a new type of relationship between the bottom of Walden and the bottom of the stream of Time--
"knowing" versus "seeing" /
actual observation and metaphor (time as stream) (?)
(though I don't think these parallels are necessarily equivalent)).
Very productive post: Pisces” has been known since antiquity and also plays a part in Eastern astronomy. In antiquity it’s associated with the legend of Venus and Cupid, who escaped from the monster Typhon by transforming into fish (as Thoreau does) and tying themselves together with rope. The river in the legend is the Euphrates. I think it's also possible to somehow combine this with the "mine-ing" you identify--there are two fish in the ancient legend, so that two-ness (or even multiplicity) remains present in a passage that is ostensibly just about ONE person's experience.
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